Tuesday, April 20, 2010
KJV w/ Apocrypha Pre-Order
With the recent outreach to Anglicans by Pope Benedict, I thought it would be appropriate to alert those interested that a premium leather edition of the KJV w/ Apocrypha will soon be available through Cambridge University Press, my favorite Bible publisher, and Baker Publishing Group. More details when they become known.
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Note one premium edition but two KVJ with Apocrypha:
The Cameo Reference in Black Calf Split
and
The Personal Size New Cambridge Paragraph Bible in Black Calfskin.
Here are a variety of KJV Bibles with Apocrypha available from US Amazon with their current prices and features, listed by ISBN. NCP = New Cambridge Paragraph Bible (edited by Norton); PO = pre-order; *=omits original textual notes.
0521506743 $ 8.63 Cambridge hardcover (Apocrypha only)
0141441518 $ 10.88 Penguin paperback* (NCP)
0199535949 $ 12.89 Oxford paperback*
1565638085 $ 16.37 Hendrickson bonded leather (1611 spelling)
1418544175 $ 31.48 Nelson hardcover (1611 spelling, PO)
0521843863 $ 49.99 Cambridge burgundy hardcover (NCP)
0521762847 $ 49.99 Cambridge hardcover (NCP, personal size, PO)
052119881X $ 96.83 Cambridge black calfskin (NCP, personal size, PO)
0521146143 $109.61 Cambridge black calf split (Cameo reference, PO)
0521844452 $192.00 Cambrdige hardcover (includes add'l "textual history")
If you want a cheap option, I recommend the Penguin paperback. If you want a nice hand-held edition, I recommend the forthcoming Cameo reference or the "personal size" calfskin NCP.
Theophrastus,
Thanks for the more comprehensive info on the KJV releases.
I decided to buy an older translation to use as a reference when comparing translations. I decided on the Douay-Rheims (Saint Benedict Press) large print in genuine leather. And one nice feature of the D-R Bible is that it does not say 'Apocrypha' on it, for Catholics that is kind of nice. It is also encouraging to see some of the Protestant Bibles coming out with a version that includes the 'Deutrocanonical' books (KJV, ESV, etc.)
Ok I have a question: I haven't read any comments or recommendations to the King James/New King James version on this site (with apocrypha) until now. Is it because these translations are not good ones or is it because this version has never had apocrypha?
Do they use the KJV in Anglican use parishes? I've never seen a "KJV-CE" anywhere, though KJV with Apocrypha I've seen. I guess the bishops could have approved the periscopes without granting an imprimatur to the entire text. Alternatively maybe they use adapted KJV readings similar to the way that the NAB has been adapted in the Lectionary.
Diakonos: The KJV is a major Bible translation and is widely considered to be a high point in English literature. The 1907 Catholic Encyclopedia says:
It is generally admitted that the Authorized Version was in almost every respect a great improvement on any of its predecessors.... Nevertheless, there remained in the Authorized Version here and there traces of controversial prejudice, as for example, in the angel's salutation to the Blessed Virgin Mary, the words "highly favoured" being a very imperfect rendering of the original.
The KJV strongly influenced the version of the Douay-Rheims that is now widely used -- the 1749-1752 revision by Bishop Challoner. When you see a "Douay-Rheims" Bible in a bookstore, you are almost certainly looking at the Challoner version. Cardinal Newman famously wrote "Challoner's version is even nearer to the Protestant [KJV] than it is to the [original 1582-1610] Douay." The Confraternity Version is a direct descendant of the Challoner version, and the NAB is an indirect descendant.
Similarly, there is a direct chain KJV -> RV/ASV -> RSV -> NRSV.
Francesco: The Anglican Use Catholic parishes use the Book of Divine Worship a Catholic adaptation of the Book of Common Prayer with the imprimatur. The KJV does not have the imprimatur so it can't be used as liturgy, and I have heard the RSV is most commonly used. On the other hand, most "Anglo-Catholic" parishes and Traditional Anglican parishes use the KJV.
Timothy & Others:
I've enjoyed your comments regarding the KJV w/ Apocrypha.
From what I gather, as it stands,
the KJV with Apocrypha wouldn't be able to get an Imprimatur from any
Catholic Bishop? Is that your take?
I find it inconceivable that the KJV could receive an imprimatur because (a) of the circumstances of James' persecution of Catholics (especially after the Gunpowder Plot); and (b) no Catholic participation was allowed, thus excluding imprimatur under Canon Law 825(b).
On the other hand, the original 1582-1610 Douay-Rheims also lacks an imprimatur. (The 1907 Catholic Encylcopedia points out that it was instead recommended by several divines).
Today, most people who refer to the "Douay-Rheims" are not referring to the 1582-1610 version but the completely changed version by Bishop Challoner from 1749-1752. The Challoner version did receive the imprimatur.
Amazon has updated the release dates for both the new Cambridge KJV + Apocrypha releases (the Cameo Reference and Personal Size NCP). They are now scheduled to appear in February 2011.
Well shoot. And I just bought goatskin cambridge kjv. Got it for only $99 brand new, no DC books though...
To be honest I havent even read those yet anyway and although we call them also canical they dont seem to be held in the same esteem as the other OT books.
Keith
1. Anglican Use types tend to use the RSV-CE. I am sure there must be some exceptions but I haven't net any yet.
2. The original King James Bible (AV) included the Apocrypha. Though it was dropped later by most protestants, nevertheless, throughout my Anglo-Catholic decades my KJV's always included the Apocrypha as did our lectionary.
3. Rumor has it that the ESV now has an Apocrypha because the Church of England Evangelicals demanded it.
4. A little known fact - the 39 Articles of Religion of the Anglican Church includes the 2nd Book of Homilies which treats the "Apocryphal" books as Scripture.
5. The KJV and NKJV - surprise! surprise! - are both closer to the Vulgate than the NAB! Not sure how important that is but I find it deliciously ironic.
6. Another irony, Luke 1 in the NAB (official Catholic Latin rite English Bible in US) reads, "favored one." Likewise the NRSV-CE, JB, and NJB. Does that mean "full of grace" isn't such a big deal after all?
Brad
Are we going to get a KJV:CE now that we have some lovely Anglicans joining us? That would be fab :)
Just in case anyone is still reading this thread: unfortunately, the resulting Cameo Bible turned out to be missing most of the last chapter of II Maccabees. I suspect that as with its infamous RSV misprint, Cambridge will respond by tipping in the missing page rather than making a new print run. What a pity for what was otherwise a fine edition.
I just bought my very first KJV w/Apocrypha from Cambridge University Press. Yes, apparently there was a problem with one of the editions that came out in 2010 but has been corrected and re-released.
I LOVE this Bible. Prior to getting it, my favorite has been the Douay-Rheims, which I still love. But the King James is just so lovely. I purchased the Cameo Reference edition.
Another plus is the size. At first glance, it seemed like it would be a little too small for comfort. It's a good 1" shorter and 1/2" narrower than my St. Benedict Press DR. Surprise, surprise, this size is perfect. It's completely readable yet small enough to comfortably hold in your hand or to read in bed.
Love this Bible. Thank you Cambridge University Press!
Elizabeth,
Thanks for the update. If you ever would like to do a guest review of your KJV, just send me an email.
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