The older version:
'Glory to God in the highest,
and peace to his people on earth.
Lord God, heavenly King, almighty God and Father, we worship you, we give you thanks, we praise you for your glory. Lord Jesus Christ, only Son of the Father, Lord God, Lamb of God, you take away the sin of the world: have mercy on us; you are seated at the right hand of the Father: receive our prayer. For you alone are the Holy One, you alone are the Lord, You alone are the Most High, Jesus Christ, with the Holy Spirit, in the glory of God the Father. Amen.'
The version in the Third Edition:
'Glory to God in the highest,
and on earth peace to people of good will. We praise you, we bless you, we adore you, we glorify you, we give you thanks for your great glory, Lord God, heavenly King, O God, almighty Father.
Lord Jesus Christ, Only Begotten Son, Lord God, Lamb of God,
Son of the Father, you take away the sins of the world,
have mercy on us; you take away the sins of the world, receive our prayer;
you are seated at the right hand of the Father, have mercy on us.
For you alone are the Holy One, you alone are the Lord,
you alone are the Most High, Jesus Christ, with the Holy Spirit,
in the glory of God the Father. Amen.'
In my parish, we have been singing the new Gloria for a few weeks now. What I found interesting is, on the old version, we never sang "Amen" at the end, but we are doing so with the new version. Also, on the old version, we always sang "peace to God's people on earth", instead of "His", which always made me cringe, smacking of inclusive language (note- it was only our current director of music ministry who replaced the "His" with "God's").
ReplyDeleteMy only disappointment so far is that our director of music has picked kind of sappy, pop-style music for the new "Gloria", and the exact same melody is also used for the "Lamb of God", "Sanctus", and "Alleluia". Wish it would have been something more traditional, or even chant.
--- Bill.
We've been singing the new Gloria at my parish for a month or so and I have to admit that I liked the way we sang the old one better. I'm not sure if we're just using a bad setting ("Mass of Renewal" I think), or if its just harder to write music for it.
ReplyDeleteWe started singing the new Gloria the last two weeks. The words are fine, our setting is terrible. Our music director chose to stay with the prior melody and the new words applied to it. The problem is that the words just don't go with the melody. It's like fitting square peg into a round hole...it just doesn't work. A great deal of the problem we have with people NOT singing in our parishes today is many of the songs are unsingable and I'm afraid that is the case with this.
ReplyDeleteKeith
I agree with the other comments. The words are beautiful. The music we are being stuck with is awful. Its not the substance that's the problem, its the style. We need to educate out music directors... they seem to be stuck in the 1970s. They need to know Gregorian Chant is OK. It's nothing to be scared of.
ReplyDeleteDon't blame your director, there's a dearth of arrangements that are anything other than pop-py. Chant is lovely, but so hard for a congregation to really sing. And there's just not much that's traditional/triumphant sounding.
ReplyDeleteBeautiful Song, I like the new one. Then again I've been an absent Catholic in my youth & I dont remember the previous one.
ReplyDeleteHey,
ReplyDeleteThere are quite a few new tunes for the revised gloria. A few available online as well. Here are some links.
Gloria – Mass for the new world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LghFhltnhj0
Mass Of Light
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzuVF1rwamA
Mass of Joy and Peace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFa-ZyIE12k
--Jason
It's sung beautifully @ St Lawrence the Martyr R.C. Church in Sayville, NY, as I'm sure elsewhere. Contact their music director. Google web site.
ReplyDeleteAs far as I remembered, I have always learned that we are to humbly ask for God's grace and blessings. We say "God Bless You!" when someone sneezes. Nowadays, to be politically correct in these confusing times, we say "bless you!" omitting "God" from the phrase. Now, when in the world did we ever start blessing God?? We don't bless, we don't have the power to do that - God does, not us!
ReplyDeleteI am not trying to be difficult here, but at least trying to get a sense of the new Gloria prayer even made it into our pews. Is Vatican over-analyzing a prayer that has had a perfect meaning for the past hundreds of years?
Because I am a mostly Latin-based linguistic person, I have properly guessed etymology of words through the literal translation from Latin to English in the third edition of the Roman Missal. To volunteer basically means to show your willingness to do deeds for other people. Heaven is typically depicted as a place in the sky. Here are synonyms I found:
ReplyDeletelaud--praise
benediction--blessing
omnipotent--almighty
Here in Zimbabwe we started singing the new Gloria last month (August).the new tune is fine melody-wise,good harmonies as well.I still have a question though.We say our God is a God of mercy and he embraces us all whether good or bad.Jesus himself said it in Luke 5:32 "I have come to call not those who think they are righteous, but those who know they are sinners and need to repent."...NOW I become confused when we sing "Glory to God in the highest,
ReplyDeleteand on earth peace to people of GOODWILL." does this mean we are advocating for peace to only the righteous on earth?who on earth right now is righteous?are we all not sinners?if peace is for the righteous only then what about the sinners?are we saying they shouldnt experience the peace of our loving god? That part alone makes me prefer the old gloria text which is more inclusive 'Glory to God in the highest,
and peace to his people on earth." ..remember the original text is taken from the song of the angels at jesus's birth.then Christ himself had not started his ministry..i believe that part needs to revisited .....
Hillary, I have always thought of this as meaning that the ONLY way to have peace is to do God's will. God's will is completely good. Goodwill = God's will. Men who do evil (sin) are by definition not men of goodwill because they are choosing their own will over the will of God. We have peace in proportion to our goodwill. When our will is good, it is in accordance with God's will by definition. The Gloria does not exclude sinners, it is (I think) a call to sinners to repent and do God's will. That is the only way to find peace.
DeleteHey Hillary,
ReplyDeleteThat's a verse from the bible - Luke 2:14.
Maybe the Bible itself needs to be revisited? Just kidding.
But on a serious note, God loves us all - sinner or not.
Then why only peace to the good, you may ask? Because you can only be in peace when you're doing with this right. And this is not only true with peace, but with other things too.
Isaiah 48:22
'There is no peace', says the Lord, 'for the wicked'.
The call to turn away from sin is not just for salvation alone. It's to enrich our lives in this world too. And the to enrich the lives of those around us - and this is what we are all called for - to be the light for the world and salt for the earth.
Note to Admin: I'd really appreciate if you can notify Hillary Matias about this comment. God bless!